Society > Tunisian Friendship 101 / Amities Tunisiennes
Friendship, TN way, has changed dramatically the past 15years or more. Before I used to have friends that I can really talk to and spend quality time with, without the need to worry about the after talk. It was simple and straightforward concept of friendship, there were no strings attached, trust and respect was high and mentalities were not twisted.
Nowadays…..it’s a totally different business, actually it is a business.
Yesterday, a friend of mine called from
Mr X started talking about his life, the good old days & the fun compared to the misery of today’s
I felt good that some old timer remembered and bothered to call me (well, it’s free, but c’est le geste qui compte).
The conversation was quite flat; mostly talking about the past, and the present in the abstract, touching on the weather from time to time.
Mr X was about to hang up when he suddenly brings the subject of electronics and mentions how expensive they are in Tunisia, and even in Europe due to the currency exchange. He then jumped talking about E-bay (pronounced E-BYE in
I could not figure what this talk was about exactly, but I kept listening.
He then jumps to discuss his work, how demanding it is, how hectic the travel was and how he’s constantly on the road, managing deliveries and time (btw, I don’t know what he does exactly, but who cares).
Then he starts asking me about this gadget called XDA sort of Palm Pilot sort of PDA, sort of Mini computer, sort of GPS, sort of Mobile phone, sort of Radar Detector, sort of everything.
I replied ‘No’, I’m not really aware of such device, i’m quite basic person.
He then tries to convince me to buy it for myself, he kept venting the benefits it would have on my life, both personal and professional and how better off I would be, especially in-front of my colleagues.
I kindly told him that I don’t need these things and that they’re quite expensive anyway and over my modest budget (
Finally, he gets real and moves to the point, and asks me if I can buy one for him (1500
I replied: Sure, well, I mean, you’re going to pay for it or you want it as a gift?
He replied: Of course I’ll pay you my brother, you’ll have your money waiting for you in cash
I asked: Ok, granted I buy it and bring it with me, what if customs (Diwana) put a hold on it, after all Radar detector & GPS are prohibited in
He replied: I don’t think so, you’re “bouha”, you can bring even a car and no body will notice it. I remember you buddy, you were the smartest ass around
I asked: Ok, thank you for the compliment, but still, what if customs put a hold on it?
He replied: Well, you pay and then we’ll talk, I have many friends at customs, I’ll get your money back
I asked: We talk what and when?
He replied: When time comes.
I kept silent for a minute then I told him that I have a better idea: Why don’t you order it yourself? If you have an E-bay account then you must have a credit card, and if you have a credit card, you can buy it anywhere in the world and get the item shipped to TN.
He replied: It’s too complicated and I don’t know how to do it, besides Customs will definitely charge me 150% and I don’t have the money to pay for it
I then replied: I will help complete the transaction, don’t worry.
He said: it’s ok, don’t worry about it, Aya good night, it’s really late here and tomorrow I have long day at work.
And the line goes silent…before I even say “Nighty Nite”
Story 2 (A year or so ago)
This is a Tunisian in
Phone rings ***
Mr. Y: Bouha Napo, how you doing my brother?
Mr. Y: It’s me, chnouwa you don’t remember people anymore? I’m Mr Y, oh man, I’m disappointed in you!!!
Mr. Y: Yes, I’m a director a local tech firm now, lots of money and lots of fun, life is good.
Mr. Y: So, how come you don’t visit me? I missed you a lot; you should come over from
Mr. Y: Ah, aya mabrouk..
Mr. Y: I was married, then divorced and I have one kid in
Mr. Y: Look
Mr. Y: Actually, I need your mailing address.
Mr. Y: Not really, I need it for some paper work.
Mr. Y: No (idiot) I need your address so I can use it to file my income tax in
Mr. Y: Don’t worry, it’s all good, I’ll take care of it
Mr. Y: Ok, no problem. I think you’re quite paranoid. I just thought you would be brave with me, but looks like friendship these days is no longer like before. Ok, what about the certificate?
Mr. Y: I can’t, because I don’t have a job now.
Mr. Y: Oh, things have changed now. Tunisian girls are very easy, and they look forward to any opportunity to leave the country or even married man, as long as there is money. Tthere are hundreds of them, you just have to go to the right places to find them.
Mr. Y: Well, I was, but I decided to leave and look for a better job (he means, he was fired, this is if he truly was a director)
Mr. Y: Don’t worry about that, I’ll take care of it, that’s none of your business.
Mr. Y: Yes and No, but don’t worry now.
Napo: Here it is,
Mr. Y: But that’s not your address? You’re not in
Mr. Y: But that’s right where I live now. How come, you’re moving here? I thought you’re staying in
Napo: Sorry man, I have found a better position in
Mr. Y: Sure, ok, Aya marhbé and call me when you’re here, good night. Actually do you have a friend - does not matter if Tunisian or not - that lives in
Mr. Y: No, that does not help, Good night.
12 Comments:
I can understand how disappointed you might be.
Whether in Canada or Tunisia, some tunisians do never ever change. I can write a book on such kinda " friendship" and when I often say that some tunisians are MEAN, manich dhalmet hom.
I'm actually applying a filter named " friendship or business " to deal with people and decide whether to keep or throw away.
cher Napo !
merci de nous montrer comment esquiver ces pseudo friends!
moi j'ai un peu de mal a gerer le fait de dire non sans que l'autre ne s'offusque !!
salut napo,
l'amitié c'est quoi ça? ça se vend encore ici en tunisie?
ya napo le tunisien marche au donnat donnat. tu seras traité de tous les noms car tu veux respecter les lois. wallahi notre pays marche sur la tete!!!
j'ai bien aimé son idée de faire venir sa future femme.
haya tu peux me donner un coup de pouce pour immigrer au canada :))))))
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:-) lool
j'ai filtré depuis 2ans mes amis, et je le fait encore et encore,
"elmaslha" est le principe des tunisiens hélas,j'ai développé un falir et un instinct détecteur tellement j'ai eu des épreuves dans ma petite vie.
FAUT savoir compter,mais pas sur les autres! les vrais amis sauront là quand on aura besoin réellement d'eux(makdhebch elli kalha awwal marra)
Aussi j'aimerai noter une chose: les amis que tu compte réellement sur eux changerons une fois à l"etranger,ils deviennent d'autres gens hélas,et montrent leurs face caché... :-( (tu te rappelle de l'affire de 700dollars de communication,en faite ce n'est pas uniquement ton cas ,mais c'est arrivé à des gens que je connais)
@snawsi, i like the filterr idea. do u have some rules i can use? is that idea patented? :-)
@zizou: wallahi je ne dis non que lorsque c'est grave, sinon j'essaye de faire mon pssible, mais parfois c'est difficile
@imbratour. pour ;'amitie, pour 3ala khater rehit il bled, sinon law ken jit 3ayech fi tounis rani irrahma lé. pour ton immigration, 2lech la? tu veux te marier inti zeda pour avoir les papiers..hahaha
@swifty, sa77a lik et ton instinct detecteur, ena mazelt te3ib chouway fil detecteur..lezimni recyclage
@napo: peut etre t'a pas trop vécu en tunisie,donc t'a pas en profiter pour faire avancer ton instinct,plutot il régresse loin de la tunisie, non :-) ?
Napo: there's a whole manual ( patented:) behind the filter: why, when and how to use it? tests to go through in order to win the title of "friend" and so on...
Maybe, you should first start reading some psychology books in order to master the art of profiling people.
Right after that, do some experiments to find out how well you can detect a person's "real face " ( based on the way of talking, gestures, spontaneaous- calculated reactions...)
Well, more details are available in Dr. Snawsi's book " how to filter your friends ". Get it now for only 50$!
me marier avec un canadienne!h lala je connais qlq un qui va me tuer ;)
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@napo
Hi....:) i could see how disappointed you are ....Bon je n'ai jamais eu ce genre de problème, les demandes de mes potes en tunisie ne dépassent pas des "lunettes solaires" ou des "levi's" ( jusqu'a présent c'est la plus dure faveur qu'on m'a demandé de faire, loool).But don't worry there are always real friends, you should just look around you i m sure you ll find them.
Sinon t'as bien fait de refuser de telles malversations, c'est bizarre comme les gens peuvent etre "cheeky"...et la meilleure c'est cette histoire de tunisiennes "faciles"; quel moins que rien!!!!
@imbratour, illotf 3lik mil canadienne, isam3 un conseil d'or min 3and khouk napo....la tunsienne malgre tous ces defauts est LA MEILLEURE !!!!
@manel: zaretna il barka ! il behi weil khayeb fi kol bo93a (i hope ur tunisian btw) i do have great friends, very few though that i'm keeping as long as possible.
This sounds very familiar. I myself lost touch with all my neighborhood friends and those who went to school with me. Even the ones who were very close changed dramatically (or perhaps I changed). I can't stand spending with them more than 30 mn. All the discussions turn around themselves and don't even think about having a different opinion than them. Too bad
je suis encore un p'tit bébé et je n'ai pas encore eu ce genre de situation : dilemme business/friendship .. mais bon , je dis toujours : elli bé3ik bél foul bi3ou bél 9chour :P
PS. je suis aussi un p'tit bébé blogger :) donc, marhbé bikom .. :)
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